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	<title>Comments on: Startup&#8217;s Guide: The NDA Foul</title>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/01/21/startups-guide-the-nda-foul/comment-page-1/#comment-5202</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I&#039;ve now written this 3 times so i figure i should share this.  When someone sends us an NDA, I&#039;ve been writting something to the effect of:

&lt;blockquote&gt;On the note of confidentiality agreements or NDAs.  Honestly, as a company that does a majority of its work in R&amp;D, we are exposed to so many ideas each day that it would be impossible to sign and honor most NDAs.  Unless there is a major contract in the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars involved, it&#039;s our policy to not enter into legal non disclosures.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I&#8217;ve now written this 3 times so i figure i should share this.  When someone sends us an NDA, I&#8217;ve been writting something to the effect of:</p>
<blockquote><p>On the note of confidentiality agreements or NDAs.  Honestly, as a company that does a majority of its work in R&#038;D, we are exposed to so many ideas each day that it would be impossible to sign and honor most NDAs.  Unless there is a major contract in the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars involved, it&#8217;s our policy to not enter into legal non disclosures.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/01/21/startups-guide-the-nda-foul/comment-page-1/#comment-5201</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alternatively you can use a friendDA
http://friendda.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternatively you can use a friendDA<br />
<a href="http://friendda.org/" rel="nofollow">http://friendda.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Expert Advice On Picking The Right Projects -- Jarkko Laine - Insanely interested</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/01/21/startups-guide-the-nda-foul/comment-page-1/#comment-3837</link>
		<dc:creator>Expert Advice On Picking The Right Projects -- Jarkko Laine - Insanely interested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mitigates their services to a series of Fortune 500 companies. Right now Shane is in the middle of starting a new venture - which makes his answer even more interesting: 1) Does it line up with my personal goals, beliefs [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mitigates their services to a series of Fortune 500 companies. Right now Shane is in the middle of starting a new venture &#8211; which makes his answer even more interesting: 1) Does it line up with my personal goals, beliefs [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Clanton - Design for the WEB</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/01/21/startups-guide-the-nda-foul/comment-page-1/#comment-3831</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Clanton - Design for the WEB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh. A shiny new beta to play with? Sounds fun. :-)

In regards to non-disclosure agreements, I&#039;d tend to agree that they aren&#039;t that important, unless for some reason you suspect that the person you&#039;re talking to would intentionally try to &quot;steal&quot; the idea and run with it on his own.

But then, never having had to deal with them, my opinion is a bit speculative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh. A shiny new beta to play with? Sounds fun. <img src='http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In regards to non-disclosure agreements, I&#8217;d tend to agree that they aren&#8217;t that important, unless for some reason you suspect that the person you&#8217;re talking to would intentionally try to &#8220;steal&#8221; the idea and run with it on his own.</p>
<p>But then, never having had to deal with them, my opinion is a bit speculative.</p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/01/21/startups-guide-the-nda-foul/comment-page-1/#comment-3828</link>
		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone. We will be putting up the beta invite page with a description very soon and I will link to it. In fact I will blog on it!! A bunch of people involved will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone. We will be putting up the beta invite page with a description very soon and I will link to it. In fact I will blog on it!! A bunch of people involved will.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Esposito</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/01/21/startups-guide-the-nda-foul/comment-page-1/#comment-3827</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Esposito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Shane, first off: good luck with the new venture.  If I knew just a little about what it was, I might ask to be on the beta list, too (hint).

Second, you asked me a while ago about how the Open Source thing works.  While this is a bit OT, one thing that publishing our software as Open Source does for us is eliminate the whole NDA experience.  Truth be told, we do still use NDA clauses in our contracts to protect our and our clients&#039; IP.  Still, one thing fewer to worry about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Shane, first off: good luck with the new venture.  If I knew just a little about what it was, I might ask to be on the beta list, too (hint).</p>
<p>Second, you asked me a while ago about how the Open Source thing works.  While this is a bit OT, one thing that publishing our software as Open Source does for us is eliminate the whole NDA experience.  Truth be told, we do still use NDA clauses in our contracts to protect our and our clients&#8217; IP.  Still, one thing fewer to worry about.</p>
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		<title>By: Lodewijkvdb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lodewijkvdb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think NDA&#039;s serve a specific need. The company I work for (parttime now) uses them frequently, when information sharing is regulated for instance (governement / defence contractors), but also to protect intellectual property.

I totally agree that execution is the most important one, followed by (&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2006/06/the_art_of_the_.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Guy Kawasaki will hate me for this&lt;/a&gt;) first mover advantage. But the latter is overrated too. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/21/9-reasons-why-the-digg-story-sells/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Digg wasn&#039;t the first&lt;/a&gt; yet they beat the competition (although things may be changing for them).

Filing patents (in Europe anyway) is often also not very beneficial, taking your innovation in a practical form to the market is. Being there as the first or the best counts more is my belief.

So I would say, go for the wisdom and advice, as they will make you even better. And trust your gut-feeling when it comes to people. Not talking to people you don&#039;t trust completely is way better than having the NDA anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think NDA&#8217;s serve a specific need. The company I work for (parttime now) uses them frequently, when information sharing is regulated for instance (governement / defence contractors), but also to protect intellectual property.</p>
<p>I totally agree that execution is the most important one, followed by (<a href="http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2006/06/the_art_of_the_.html" rel="nofollow">Guy Kawasaki will hate me for this</a>) first mover advantage. But the latter is overrated too. <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/21/9-reasons-why-the-digg-story-sells/" rel="nofollow">Digg wasn&#8217;t the first</a> yet they beat the competition (although things may be changing for them).</p>
<p>Filing patents (in Europe anyway) is often also not very beneficial, taking your innovation in a practical form to the market is. Being there as the first or the best counts more is my belief.</p>
<p>So I would say, go for the wisdom and advice, as they will make you even better. And trust your gut-feeling when it comes to people. Not talking to people you don&#8217;t trust completely is way better than having the NDA anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynoure Braakman</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/01/21/startups-guide-the-nda-foul/comment-page-1/#comment-3824</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynoure Braakman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;m interested in the private beta, but of course it&#039;s hard to say without knowing anything if I&#039;m in your target group or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;m interested in the private beta, but of course it&#8217;s hard to say without knowing anything if I&#8217;m in your target group or not.</p>
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