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	<title>Comments on: Sign Off Etiquette</title>
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		<title>By: GroovyBrent</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/05/02/sign-off/comment-page-1/#comment-4043</link>
		<dc:creator>GroovyBrent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Peter - 

Because of the nature of our projects, we do &lt;b&gt;most&lt;/b&gt; of our reviews face-to-face.  At the end of our review session(s), we summarize the notes taken for changes, and ask (or more to the point, &quot;tell&quot;) the client to initial the appropriate box.

At the end of the project, we don&#039;t hand off the final files until we get signoff.  Once again, because we&#039;re dealing with (mostly) local clients, it is easy to do this face-to-face. 

Now... when we have a client that &lt;i&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; local that gets a little trickier.  Generally what we do is exactly what you suggest, scan, email, fax the form back and forth.  but once again, each signoff is accompanied with a summary of the changes requested in the review session (even if that review session is virtual).

We do occasionally have a &lt;i&gt;little&lt;/i&gt; bit of a problem with clients requesting changes that are outside the scope of work, but generally we handle that with diplomacy and kind words.  In 8 years, I&#039;ve only had one client that I really felt like they tried to take advantage of me.

We&#039;re considering the possibility of creating a purely electronic version of the form, but I like having ink-on-paper.  Just makes it feel a little more real to the client.

In your case, where you may not have physical media to hand off, that gets a little tricker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Peter &#8211; </p>
<p>Because of the nature of our projects, we do <b>most</b> of our reviews face-to-face.  At the end of our review session(s), we summarize the notes taken for changes, and ask (or more to the point, &#8220;tell&#8221;) the client to initial the appropriate box.</p>
<p>At the end of the project, we don&#8217;t hand off the final files until we get signoff.  Once again, because we&#8217;re dealing with (mostly) local clients, it is easy to do this face-to-face. </p>
<p>Now&#8230; when we have a client that <i>isn&#8217;t</i> local that gets a little trickier.  Generally what we do is exactly what you suggest, scan, email, fax the form back and forth.  but once again, each signoff is accompanied with a summary of the changes requested in the review session (even if that review session is virtual).</p>
<p>We do occasionally have a <i>little</i> bit of a problem with clients requesting changes that are outside the scope of work, but generally we handle that with diplomacy and kind words.  In 8 years, I&#8217;ve only had one client that I really felt like they tried to take advantage of me.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re considering the possibility of creating a purely electronic version of the form, but I like having ink-on-paper.  Just makes it feel a little more real to the client.</p>
<p>In your case, where you may not have physical media to hand off, that gets a little tricker!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/05/02/sign-off/comment-page-1/#comment-4042</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great!  We&#039;re definitely going to take your approach.

Ok, now I&#039;m really getting curious...
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&lt;li&gt;How do you ask for sign off?  I mean, do you email it to them and say, &quot;please sign line 1-5, we&#039;re holding work until you sign&quot;?  Do they have the file up front and they keep faxing versions with more initials as they go?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I notice you have a space to mark if there are changes...  does the client check that and then send you the changes? Is this a way to ensure a minimal set of revisions?  Or do you do changes and check that before sending it to the client and consider all changes to already be complete?&lt;/li&gt;
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p.s. nice blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great!  We&#8217;re definitely going to take your approach.</p>
<p>Ok, now I&#8217;m really getting curious&#8230;</p>
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<li>How do you ask for sign off?  I mean, do you email it to them and say, &#8220;please sign line 1-5, we&#8217;re holding work until you sign&#8221;?  Do they have the file up front and they keep faxing versions with more initials as they go?</li>
<li>I notice you have a space to mark if there are changes&#8230;  does the client check that and then send you the changes? Is this a way to ensure a minimal set of revisions?  Or do you do changes and check that before sending it to the client and consider all changes to already be complete?</li>
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<p>p.s. nice blog.</p>
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		<title>By: GroovyBrent</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/05/02/sign-off/comment-page-1/#comment-4041</link>
		<dc:creator>GroovyBrent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Peter - 

We&#039;re a video production company and our projects range from about $10,000 up to around $100,000 with a sweet spot somewhere in the middle.  

I&#039;ve uploaded a .pdf version of our form over at our blog: http://www.groovylikeamovie.com/blog/?p=42

Let me know if you see any holes/improvements!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Peter &#8211; </p>
<p>We&#8217;re a video production company and our projects range from about $10,000 up to around $100,000 with a sweet spot somewhere in the middle.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve uploaded a .pdf version of our form over at our blog: <a href="http://www.groovylikeamovie.com/blog/?p=42" rel="nofollow">http://www.groovylikeamovie.com/blog/?p=42</a></p>
<p>Let me know if you see any holes/improvements!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/05/02/sign-off/comment-page-1/#comment-4040</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 04:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GrooveyBrent, That&#039;s a great way to ensure expectations are well managed.  What size projects do you work on?  I&#039;d love to see an example of what you send your clients... Can you share a generic version of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GrooveyBrent, That&#8217;s a great way to ensure expectations are well managed.  What size projects do you work on?  I&#8217;d love to see an example of what you send your clients&#8230; Can you share a generic version of it?</p>
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		<title>By: GroovyBrent</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/05/02/sign-off/comment-page-1/#comment-4039</link>
		<dc:creator>GroovyBrent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 21:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We tend to use a sign-off sheet that we have the clients initial at each major milestone, with a signature indicating acceptance of the completed project at the end.  It seems to work well for us and keeps both the client and my team honest that we actually DO each step we&#039;re supposed to do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We tend to use a sign-off sheet that we have the clients initial at each major milestone, with a signature indicating acceptance of the completed project at the end.  It seems to work well for us and keeps both the client and my team honest that we actually DO each step we&#8217;re supposed to do!</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Clanton - Design for the WEB</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/05/02/sign-off/comment-page-1/#comment-4036</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Clanton - Design for the WEB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad I could help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I could help!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/05/02/sign-off/comment-page-1/#comment-4035</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 16:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I buy that.  I tend to over use introducing statements.  &quot;On a personal note&quot;, &quot;Although there may be a better way to do this&quot;, &quot;Incase I haven&#039;t mentioned this before&quot;....

I often find myself removing these statements after i&#039;ve written a letter (usually with a lot of help from shane).

Thanks Josh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I buy that.  I tend to over use introducing statements.  &#8220;On a personal note&#8221;, &#8220;Although there may be a better way to do this&#8221;, &#8220;Incase I haven&#8217;t mentioned this before&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>I often find myself removing these statements after i&#8217;ve written a letter (usually with a lot of help from shane).</p>
<p>Thanks Josh!</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Clanton - Design for the WEB</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/05/02/sign-off/comment-page-1/#comment-4034</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Clanton - Design for the WEB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 16:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the one thing I&#039;m not crazy about is the phrase &quot;on a personal note.&quot; It seems a bit too formal for a personal note to me. :-)

I&#039;d probably just say, &quot;I also want to let you know...&quot;

But the overall content is great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the one thing I&#8217;m not crazy about is the phrase &#8220;on a personal note.&#8221; It seems a bit too formal for a personal note to me. <img src='http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;d probably just say, &#8220;I also want to let you know&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>But the overall content is great!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2008/05/02/sign-off/comment-page-1/#comment-4033</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 15:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Josh!  That said, I&#039;m totally interested to learn what else I could do to improve the letter. Let me know if you have any suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Josh!  That said, I&#8217;m totally interested to learn what else I could do to improve the letter. Let me know if you have any suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Clanton - Design for the WEB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Clanton - Design for the WEB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 15:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great wrap-up letter. I write something similar, but I like yours better. Now I&#039;m totally going to steal it. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great wrap-up letter. I write something similar, but I like yours better. Now I&#8217;m totally going to steal it. <img src='http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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